Episodes

May 17, 2023

Sarah and Justin Tackle Hallmark Holiday Homilies

Hey friends this week is another low key episode wherein Justin and Sarah talk a bit about Mother's Day, family, and how we celebrate each other as we deconstruct our ministry and faith. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! Let us ...
May 3, 2023

What's helped with Sarah and Justin

Hey friends this week is a low key episode wherein Justin and Sarah talk a bit about things that have helped them get through revcovery and deconstruction. Hopefully some of these resources will help you too. Welcome to the R...
April 26, 2023

Asian American Apostate with Scott Okamoto

We have the honor to welcome the one and only Scott Okamoto to the podcast today! Justin got to hang out with Scott for his book launch in Los Angeles and it was so good we felt like we had to have him on the show. As an Asia...
April 20, 2023

Stories from the REVcovery Room with Elizabeth Mora

This is another in our ongoing series highlighting the stories of our Patrons on Discord. This week Elizabeth Mora shares her unique story of ministry in an openly progressive denomination and how the grass isn't always green...
April 4, 2023

Episode 50: Growth, Easter, and changing perspectives with Justin and Sarah

This week Justin and Sarah reflect on another Easter outside of the pulpit and in the wilds beyond the stained glass windows. We can't go back to who we were as clergy but we still carry that sense of calling to name the trut...
March 29, 2023

Episode 49: Stories from the REVcovery Room with Sara Relaford

This week we are happy to have a member of our Discord community share their experience of REVcovery. Rev Dr. Sara Relaford is a former UMC minister whose perspective on the journey into and out of ministry has been so valuab...
March 22, 2023

Episode 48: Homebrewed Friendship with Dr. Tripp Fuller

Folks we have a treat for you this week because Dr Tripp Fuller is with us to talk about community, the Church, and his love of Justin's sweatpants. It's a wide ranging conversation but stick around for the end as we talk abo...
March 14, 2023

Episode 47: Making room for a different sort of faith with Tim Whitaker

This week on the pod we have Tim Whitaker, creator of The New Evangelicals , on the show. Tim was a super volunteer in churches and on worship teams and over time began to see that what was being practiced in churches was not...
March 8, 2023

Episode 46: Pursuing your Passions with Dr Dorrell Briscoe

We have a great episode for you this week with Dr. Harold Dorrell Briscoe! Our guest is a renaissance man in many ways and uses all of his varied passions and interests to create community and connection wherever he goes. Dor...
March 1, 2023

Episode 45: Becoming with Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza

This week's episode is the last in our series of interviews at Theology Beer Camp. Today you will get to hear Justin interview Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza. We get a little into Dr. Roberto's journey as a nonbinary Transqueer Lat...
Feb. 24, 2023

Episode 44: Good Grief with Psychotherapist Rebecca Ching

This week we discuss grief, transitions, and all the other things with Psychotherapist Rebecca Ching. Her story is filled with transitions and career changes into and out of ministry and the professional world. She is a pheno...
Feb. 15, 2023

Episode 43: Risking the Jump with Cathleen Falsani

Folks you are in for a great conversation because this week we have Author and Agent Cathleen Falsani on the show. As a former religion reporter for the Chicago Sun Times Cathleen has seen many of the shifts that drive this r...
Feb. 7, 2023

Episode 42: Getting SoulFULL with Coach Chris Rodriguez

Hey friends we are delighted to introduce you to Coach Chris Rodriguez ( website here )! He has an amazing story and message that will resonate with any of you that find yourselves in a human body. This conversation ranges fr...
Feb. 1, 2023

Episode 41: 2023 and Me

Welcome friends and happy belated new year! We are so excited to start this new season of REVcovery with you. This week Justin and Sarah talk a bit about new years and renegotiating our relationship to self-discipline, goals,...
Dec. 21, 2022

Episode 40: What in the Holly Jolly do you do with Christmas?

Folks we made it! Episode 40 and the end of our first year of REVcovery. Sarah and Justin are so grateful for the many delightful twists and turns this first year has had and can't wait to see what happens in 2023. In this ep...
Dec. 14, 2022

Episode 39: Navigating church in a female body, a discussion with Dr Jennifer Bashaw

We are happy this week to welcome Dr Jennifer Bashaw to the REVcovery Room! Sarah and Justin had an opportunity to sit down with Dr Bashaw at Theology Beer Camp to discuss her time in ministry, journey into academia, and how ...
Dec. 7, 2022

Episode 38: Too Real for Church with Heather Sanford

This week we welcome our good friend Heather Sanford to the REVcovery Room! In addition to being a delightful individual Heather served for many years in youth ministry and then on an executive leadership team and she has mor...
Nov. 29, 2022

Episode 38: The best is yet to come with Matt Kendziera

This week we welcome Matt Kendziera to the REVcovery Room! In addition to being a former pastor Matt is also an author, musician, speaker and all around renaissance man whose book "Bring it Home: The Adventure of Finding Your...
Nov. 23, 2022

Episode 36: Does God play hard to get? a conversation with Dr. Sarah Lane Ritchie

This week we are happy to present one of the interviews Sarah did at Theology Beer Camp with the incredible Dr. Sarah Lane Ritchie. It is a wide ranging conversation but it centers on the hiddenness of God and what we do with...
Nov. 8, 2022

Episode 35: You found a new job; now what?

Hey friends this week is a simple episode where Justin and Sarah share a bit about what life is like after you have fully made the transition out of ministry (or whatever you did). How do you set expectations, manage boundari...
Nov. 1, 2022

Episode 34: A New Brew with Josh Patterson

This week we welcome Josh Patterson, former pastor and now brewer at Full Tilt Brewery, to the show! Josh has an amazing story of coming to terms with the information his body was telling to him about his time in ministry and...
Oct. 25, 2022

Episode 33: Cameron Bishop gets his voice back

This week we sit down with Cameron Bishop, Executive Director of Impact Lives, an organization that uses cognitive science to change the lives of clients ranging from school kids to professional athletes. Cameron is a former ...
Oct. 20, 2022

Episode 32: The Fluid Spirituality of Derek Myers

This week we interview Derek Myers, better known on the internet as "Derek the Heretic." Derek is also one half of "Your Favorite Heretics" so combined with Justin and Sarah you need to brace yourselves for a whole lot of her...
Oct. 4, 2022

Episode 31: Jeff Elkins Saves Himself

This week we are delighted to introduce you to our new friend, former minister, and current member of the REVcovery Community, Jeff Elkins! This episode really is a full circle moment for us because neither Justin or Sarah kn...