Episodes

Dec. 16, 2023

Episode 73: Revisiting the Call

This week Justin and Sarah revisit the idea of calling and what it means to us now that we are no longer doing the thing we were "called" to do. Were we tricked? Was it all fake? Were we wrong? Was God wrong? We probably won…
Dec. 8, 2023

Episode 72: WTF moments in ministry with Justin and Sarah

This week we have a lighter episode wherein we talk a bit about all the WTF moments we have had in ministry. We hope it brings a smile to your face this holiday season. This week we have a sponsor! Download the Our Bible App…
Nov. 22, 2023

Episode 71: What makes you bloom with Kevin Garcia

This week we have a lovely conversation with Kevin Garcia about leaving ministry, redefining spiritual practice, and finding what makes you bloom. You can preorder his new book, What Makes You Bloom , wherever books are sold…
Nov. 18, 2023

Episode 70: Justin and Sarah seek calm in the chaos

This week is a simple episode with Justin and Sarah talking about how to keep our heads above water as we swim in the chaos that is living in the 21st century. Take a deep breathe, relax, and welcome to the REVcovery Room. W…
Nov. 3, 2023

Episode 69: Embodiment after religion with Justin Wilford

Folks we have an excellent conversation today with Justin Wilford co-Founder of the Yes Collective, a a parent-focused mental wellness platform. In addition to talking about mental wellness we talk about his academic work st…
Oct. 23, 2023

Episode 68: Inspiring Design with Jef Caine

This week we welcome Jef Caine to the REVcovery room and hear a great discussion about art in the church and turnign our struggles with vocation into careers that give us life again. Hope you enjoy this trip into the REVcove…
Oct. 12, 2023

Episode 67: Stories from the REVcovery Room: Down Under Edition with Simon Nixon

This week we interview Simon Nixon a friend from down under who has found freedom from the stress of ministry working with abusers and violent criminals...which kinda says alot. Welcome to the REVcovery Room, you don't want …
Sept. 21, 2023

Episode 66: Stumbling with Brandon Flanery

This week we welcome Brandon Flanery to the show! Brandon is the REVcovery trifecta (expastor, exmissionary, and exevangelical) and now writes and speaks at the intersection of faith and sexuality. In addition to being an am…
Sept. 16, 2023

Episode 65: From the Pulpit to the Gram with Brian Recker

This week we welcome former pastor and occasional bartender Brian Recker on the show! Brian has a fantastic story of involving faith transitions and a widening of his perspective leading to his eventual exit from ministry. B…
Sept. 8, 2023

Episode 64: On Death Row with Hilary Taylor

Friends we have a great story this week as we interview Hilary Taylor about ministry, evolving faith, and her rewarding friendships with death row inmates. You don't want to miss this one. We now have a Discord now for our P…
Aug. 31, 2023

Episode 63: Stories from the REVcovery Room with Kyle Harbour

This week Sarah and Justin welcome Kyle Harbour to the REVcovery room and you do not wan to miss this one. Kyle comes out of the sound booth to give us the scoop on what professional ministry looks like from behind the power…
Aug. 23, 2023

Episode 62: Stories from the REVcovery Room with Leslie Nease

This week we bring another story from the REVcovery room! We are joined by Leslie Nease this week who has been at times a radio host, contestant on Survivor, fitness instructor, and much more. It has been a long road through…
Aug. 17, 2023

Episode 61: Start, Stop, Continue

We are back! This week we kickoff a new season of REVcovery and wow is it going to be a great one. This episode we reflect back on what we have done, where we are going and what we would like to start, stop and continue. It'…
July 13, 2023

Episode 60: Everyone's Story Matters

This week Sarah and Justin reflect on the last season and consider where we have come from and where we are going on this REVcovery tour we are on together. We hope that as this podcast community continues to grow you will f…
July 5, 2023

Episode 59: Stepping out with Mike Maeshiro

We have an excellent episode this week as we welcome Mike Maeshiro to the REVcovery Room! Mike spent most of his ministry career hiding who he really was in order to fit in and we get into all the ways that creates problems …
June 23, 2023

Episode 58: Stories from the REVcovery Room with Kyle Caudle

This week we hear from one of our REVcovery Room members Kyle Caudle! You might be a pastor if your job description includes "other duties as assigned" and Kyle is no exception. He has done it all and has a story to tell abo…
June 7, 2023

Episode 57: Stories from the REVcovery Room with Ty Grigg

This week we hear from one of our REVcovery Room members Ty Grigg! We love having Ty on the show because he was able to make his career transition successfully and also reaches back to help others on their own journeys out o…
May 31, 2023

Stories from the REVcovery Room with Kai Carico

This week we hear from one of our REVcovery Room members Kai Carico! Kai is a fantastic human whose story of transition, whether that is a transition of vocation or transition of gender identity, is one that we are so proud …
May 25, 2023

Stories from the REVcovery Room with Brandon Dulaney

This week we hear from one of our REVcovery Room members Brandon Dulaney! We are so happy to have members of our community on the show and Brandon's story is not one to miss. We talk about everything from parenting, how we r…
May 17, 2023

Sarah and Justin Tackle Hallmark Holiday Homilies

Hey friends this week is another low key episode wherein Justin and Sarah talk a bit about Mother's Day, family, and how we celebrate each other as we deconstruct our ministry and faith. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! Let us…
May 3, 2023

What's helped with Sarah and Justin

Hey friends this week is a low key episode wherein Justin and Sarah talk a bit about things that have helped them get through revcovery and deconstruction. Hopefully some of these resources will help you too. Welcome to the …
April 26, 2023

Asian American Apostate with Scott Okamoto

We have the honor to welcome the one and only Scott Okamoto to the podcast today! Justin got to hang out with Scott for his book launch in Los Angeles and it was so good we felt like we had to have him on the show. As an Asi…
April 20, 2023

Stories from the REVcovery Room with Elizabeth Mora

This is another in our ongoing series highlighting the stories of our Patrons on Discord. This week Elizabeth Mora shares her unique story of ministry in an openly progressive denomination and how the grass isn't always gree…
April 4, 2023

Episode 50: Growth, Easter, and changing perspectives with Justin and Sarah

This week Justin and Sarah reflect on another Easter outside of the pulpit and in the wilds beyond the stained glass windows. We can't go back to who we were as clergy but we still carry that sense of calling to name the tru…