Episodes

Security and Clarity w/ Cindy Wang Brandt
Nov. 11, 2020

Security and Clarity w/ Cindy Wang Brandt

This week we speak to Cindy Wang Brandt (Author! Podcaster! Speaker!). We discuss parenting after leaving evangelicalism, re-framing how we see children and raising our family like a playground. Cindy answers questions from the Bad Apples and reminds us ...
Thoughts and Prayers
Oct. 28, 2020

Thoughts and Prayers

This week we talk about thoughts and prayers. How we were taught about it, some of the ways we saw it abused and unpack what prayer means on this side of faith change. We also talk about tone policing, vilifying the other, and hear stories from the Bad A...
Purity and Resonance w/ Brenda Marie Davies
Oct. 14, 2020

Purity and Resonance w/ Brenda Marie Davies

For episode 27 we talk to author, sex educator, youtuber and blogger Brenda Marie Davies aka God is Grey! We discuss experiencing the Divine for yourself, unlearning purity culture and finding sexual integrity. We also talk about sin, virginity, inviting...
Vote Like a Christian
Sept. 30, 2020

Vote Like a Christian

For episode 26 (not 27, despite what Adrian said) we talk about Christian Nationalism-how the term Christian ad the term patriot were intermingled, what that looked like in our experiences and the impact it left. We also talk about Ravi Zachrias, Jerry F...
Your First Language is Pleasure w/ Lauren Scott
Sept. 16, 2020

Your First Language is Pleasure w/ Lauren Scott

This week was such a blast. We got to speak with Lauren Scott (Therapist! Sex Coach!) about all things pleasure. We discuss growing up in White Evangelical Purity Culture, unlearning religious shame and engaging with delight. We also talk about Tantra, S...
When We Embrace Shame w/ Matthias Roberts
Sept. 2, 2020

When We Embrace Shame w/ Matthias Roberts

In this episode we speak to Matthias Roberts, author of 'Beyond Shame' and podcast host of 'Queerology'. We talk about how purity culture drives sexual shame, ways we deal with those messages and talk about better ways forward and building sexual ethics....
The God We Are Left With
Aug. 19, 2020

The God We Are Left With

In Episode 23 we talk about The Man Upstairs™; how we were taught about God, how that has changed for us and what of The Divine remains. We also talk about worship music, Jerry Falwell Jr's unbuttoned pants and hear stories form the Bad Apples. The Cos...
Leaving Yourself at the Door
Aug. 5, 2020

Leaving Yourself at the Door

This week on DRCK we talk about Church Family! We unpack the reality of conditional acceptance, Christian homogenization and the challenge of finding community after deconstruction. We also share a biblical storytime meditation, talk about John Crist's w...
Who Christianity Belongs To w/ Jo Luehmann
July 22, 2020

Who Christianity Belongs To w/ Jo Luehmann

This epsiode may be our favorite to date. We speak to author, speaker, content creator and community builder Jo Luehmann. We discuss decolonizing faith, narcissism within the church and the body's response to spiritual trauma. We also unpack what it look...
Playing Divine Telephone
July 8, 2020

Playing Divine Telephone

One of the most asked questions we receive is, "are you Christians?" and this week we answer that question. We talk about what the term Christian represented growing up, how it has been hijacked and how we feel about it now. We also hear from the Bad App...
The Messy Inner Work w/ Steph Barron Hall of @NineTypesCo
June 24, 2020

The Messy Inner Work w/ Steph Barron Hall of @NineTypesCo

This week we talk to Steph Hall (@ninetypesco!). She is an Enneagram coach, digital community builder, and author of the new book "The Enneagram in Love". We talk about her faith deconstruction, explore how evangelicalism interacts with the enneagram and...
Putting Away White God w/ Brandon Lubin and Nick Murray
June 10, 2020

Putting Away White God w/ Brandon Lubin and Nick Murray

In episode 18 we talk to our friends, multi-disciplinary artists Brandon Lubin and Nick Murray. We talk about ways the church hijacks creative exploration, homogenizes behavior, and quiets activism. Our guests discuss being black people in white evangeli...
Breaking Mama's Heart
June 3, 2020

Breaking Mama's Heart

This week's episode is a grab bag: we talk about John Piper's new book on Coronavirus, Ravi Zacharias, and tackle the F word: Family.
You Are a River w/ NakedPastor David Hayward
May 20, 2020

You Are a River w/ NakedPastor David Hayward

In episode 16 we speak to David Hayward (NakedPastor! The Lasting Supper!), a cartoonist, writer and community builder. We discuss spiritual independence, rejecting labels and being comfortable in the wilderness without reconstruction. We also discuss hi...
Let Bad Religion Die w/ Kevin Garcia
April 22, 2020

Let Bad Religion Die w/ Kevin Garcia

In this week’s episode we talk to author, speaker, intuitive soul coach and digital pastor Kevin Garcia (Bad Theology Kills! A Tiny Revolution! Big Queer Adventure Co!). We discuss their story as a queer Christian thought leader, spiritual revolution, t...
Resurrection in Quarantine
April 8, 2020

Resurrection in Quarantine

Back to Back DRCK episodes?! This week we decided to throw in an easter egg (ha, pun) for the Bad Apples. In Episode 13 we talk all things Easter: we discuss the Super Bowl of church services and why that sucks, the weird ways we were taught about why Je...
The Hell You Hold Onto w/ Danny Prada
April 1, 2020

The Hell You Hold Onto w/ Danny Prada

In this quarantined DRCK episode we bring back Danny Prada (Heartway!) to talk about HELL: how the church taught us about it, where the notion came from in the Bible, and why the very idea of Hell hurts to hold onto. We also answer questions from the Bad...
The Voice We Silenced
March 18, 2020

The Voice We Silenced

This week’s episode is a first of many ongoing conversations. We discuss how we were taught about biblical gender roles. We unpack the ‘headship and helper’ narratives, the quieting of children’s voices, and hear stories about the damage caused by the ge...
It’s not Doubt, It’s Curiosity w/ Jess Murray
March 4, 2020

It’s not Doubt, It’s Curiosity w/ Jess Murray

For our 10th(!!) episode we talk to Jess Murray (Promenade Counseling!).
The Second Look is Sinning
Feb. 19, 2020

The Second Look is Sinning

In this week's episode we discuss Joshua Harris' documentary, 'I Survived I Kissed Dating Goodbye'.
It's Okay, I Love You Anyways w/ Danny Brunjes
Feb. 5, 2020

It's Okay, I Love You Anyways w/ Danny Brunjes

On this week's episode we talk to Danny Brunjes (Paradise Hymns! Provendencia WPB! Rivers!) about ways the church approaches trauma, how the evangelical narrative affects inner healing, and how to worship God as a whole human. We also play a bout of Wors...
Beauty in the Backslide
Jan. 22, 2020

Beauty in the Backslide

On this week's episode Adrian and Josh talk about their stories of faith excavation-why deconstruction was necessary, their first questions and the community that turns up in the spiritual wilderness.
Too Much Shoulder for the Vatican w/ Emily Prada
Jan. 8, 2020

Too Much Shoulder for the Vatican w/ Emily Prada

In this episode we talk to Emily Prada, fitness model turned church planter (Heartway!) turned creative entrepreneur. We discuss battling the “Pastor’s Wife” stereotype, how self love informs your craft, and found out you can in fact get denied entrance ...
15 Pounds of Myrrh
Dec. 23, 2019

15 Pounds of Myrrh

Christmas time is here! For the last DRCK episode of the year Josh and Adrian discuss the art of prologue, the parable of the virgin birth, Christmas Melancholy and becoming carol bounty hunters.Sponsored by AlexJonesBigPeePee.com #485 The Rise of the...