Episodes

Nov. 11, 2020

Security and Clarity w/ Cindy Wang Brandt

This week we speak to Cindy Wang Brandt (Author! Podcaster! Speaker!). We discuss parenting after leaving evangelicalism, re-framing how we see children and raising our family like a playground. Cindy answers questions from …
Oct. 28, 2020

Thoughts and Prayers

This week we talk about thoughts and prayers. How we were taught about it, some of the ways we saw it abused and unpack what prayer means on this side of faith change. We also talk about tone policing, vilifying the other, a…
Oct. 14, 2020

Purity and Resonance w/ Brenda Marie Davies

For episode 27 we talk to author, sex educator, youtuber and blogger Brenda Marie Davies aka God is Grey! We discuss experiencing the Divine for yourself, unlearning purity culture and finding sexual integrity. We also talk …
Sept. 30, 2020

Vote Like a Christian

For episode 26 (not 27, despite what Adrian said) we talk about Christian Nationalism-how the term Christian ad the term patriot were intermingled, what that looked like in our experiences and the impact it left. We also tal…
Sept. 16, 2020

Your First Language is Pleasure w/ Lauren Scott

This week was such a blast. We got to speak with Lauren Scott (Therapist! Sex Coach!) about all things pleasure. We discuss growing up in White Evangelical Purity Culture, unlearning religious shame and engaging with delight…
Sept. 2, 2020

When We Embrace Shame w/ Matthias Roberts

In this episode we speak to Matthias Roberts, author of 'Beyond Shame' and podcast host of 'Queerology'. We talk about how purity culture drives sexual shame, ways we deal with those messages and talk about better ways forwa…
Aug. 19, 2020

The God We Are Left With

In Episode 23 we talk about The Man Upstairs™; how we were taught about God, how that has changed for us and what of The Divine remains. We also talk about worship music, Jerry Falwell Jr's unbuttoned pants and hear stories …
Aug. 5, 2020

Leaving Yourself at the Door

This week on DRCK we talk about Church Family! We unpack the reality of conditional acceptance, Christian homogenization and the challenge of finding community after deconstruction. We also share a biblical storytime meditat…
July 22, 2020

Who Christianity Belongs To w/ Jo Luehmann

This epsiode may be our favorite to date. We speak to author, speaker, content creator and community builder Jo Luehmann. We discuss decolonizing faith, narcissism within the church and the body's response to spiritual traum…
July 8, 2020

Playing Divine Telephone

One of the most asked questions we receive is, "are you Christians?" and this week we answer that question. We talk about what the term Christian represented growing up, how it has been hijacked and how we feel about it now.…
June 24, 2020

The Messy Inner Work w/ Steph Barron Hall of @NineTypesCo

This week we talk to Steph Hall (@ninetypesco!). She is an Enneagram coach, digital community builder, and author of the new book "The Enneagram in Love". We talk about her faith deconstruction, explore how evangelicalism in…
June 10, 2020

Putting Away White God w/ Brandon Lubin and Nick Murray

In episode 18 we talk to our friends, multi-disciplinary artists Brandon Lubin and Nick Murray. We talk about ways the church hijacks creative exploration, homogenizes behavior, and quiets activism. Our guests discuss being …
June 3, 2020

Breaking Mama's Heart

This week's episode is a grab bag: we talk about John Piper's new book on Coronavirus, Ravi Zacharias, and tackle the F word: Family.
May 20, 2020

You Are a River w/ NakedPastor David Hayward

In episode 16 we speak to David Hayward (NakedPastor! The Lasting Supper!), a cartoonist, writer and community builder. We discuss spiritual independence, rejecting labels and being comfortable in the wilderness without reco…
April 22, 2020

Let Bad Religion Die w/ Kevin Garcia

In this week’s episode we talk to author, speaker, intuitive soul coach and digital pastor Kevin Garcia (Bad Theology Kills! A Tiny Revolution! Big Queer Adventure Co!). We discuss their story as a queer Christian thought le…
April 8, 2020

Resurrection in Quarantine

Back to Back DRCK episodes?! This week we decided to throw in an easter egg (ha, pun) for the Bad Apples. In Episode 13 we talk all things Easter: we discuss the Super Bowl of church services and why that sucks, the weird wa…
April 1, 2020

The Hell You Hold Onto w/ Danny Prada

In this quarantined DRCK episode we bring back Danny Prada (Heartway!) to talk about HELL: how the church taught us about it, where the notion came from in the Bible, and why the very idea of Hell hurts to hold onto. We also…
March 18, 2020

The Voice We Silenced

This week’s episode is a first of many ongoing conversations. We discuss how we were taught about biblical gender roles. We unpack the ‘headship and helper’ narratives, the quieting of children’s voices, and hear stories abo…
March 4, 2020

It’s not Doubt, It’s Curiosity w/ Jess Murray

For our 10th(!!) episode we talk to Jess Murray (Promenade Counseling!).
Feb. 19, 2020

The Second Look is Sinning

In this week's episode we discuss Joshua Harris' documentary, 'I Survived I Kissed Dating Goodbye'.
Feb. 5, 2020

It's Okay, I Love You Anyways w/ Danny Brunjes

On this week's episode we talk to Danny Brunjes (Paradise Hymns! Provendencia WPB! Rivers!) about ways the church approaches trauma, how the evangelical narrative affects inner healing, and how to worship God as a whole huma…
Jan. 22, 2020

Beauty in the Backslide

On this week's episode Adrian and Josh talk about their stories of faith excavation-why deconstruction was necessary, their first questions and the community that turns up in the spiritual wilderness.
Jan. 8, 2020

Too Much Shoulder for the Vatican w/ Emily Prada

In this episode we talk to Emily Prada, fitness model turned church planter (Heartway!) turned creative entrepreneur. We discuss battling the “Pastor’s Wife” stereotype, how self love informs your craft, and found out you ca…
Dec. 23, 2019

15 Pounds of Myrrh

Christmas time is here! For the last DRCK episode of the year Josh and Adrian discuss the art of prologue, the parable of the virgin birth, Christmas Melancholy and becoming carol bounty hunters.Sponsored by AlexJonesBigPeeP…