Kevin and this podcast have helped me reckon with the trauma and harm I experienced at the hands of the church, and allowed me the space to mourn the years lost to shame and pain as a closeted teen and young adult. Kevin has helped me see that there IS a place for me in the church (if I choose to still try to be in a church community) and that there is definitely a place for me in god’s love. This has been a revolutionary idea. I am so grateful for these conversations and for the gentle, loving place Kevin creates for former church kids like me, and I feel wholly taken care of, as they continue to demand MORE of the institutions that harmed so many of us. More accountability, more education, more recognition of the harm caused. I feel like Kevin is doing this work while I am working toward being able to - I’m not ready to yet, but I know there is a place for me, and support, whenever I am ready.